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	<title>Comments on: Driver Cellphone Ban</title>
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		<title>By: Belgand</title>
		<link>http://www.munidiaries.com/2009/01/15/driver-cell-phone-ban/comment-page-1/#comment-1487</link>
		<dc:creator>Belgand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 20:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed. I doubt there is any emergency critical enough that they absolutely need to be contacted in the middle of their shift and not, perhaps, on a break or such. I worked a call center job in the past and I couldn&#039;t just stop in the middle of a call or such because I had an emergency.

This is part of what makes a shitty job shitty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed. I doubt there is any emergency critical enough that they absolutely need to be contacted in the middle of their shift and not, perhaps, on a break or such. I worked a call center job in the past and I couldn&#8217;t just stop in the middle of a call or such because I had an emergency.</p>
<p>This is part of what makes a shitty job shitty.</p>
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		<title>By: paa</title>
		<link>http://www.munidiaries.com/2009/01/15/driver-cell-phone-ban/comment-page-1/#comment-1484</link>
		<dc:creator>paa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If there&#039;s a real emergency, the caller can call muni central dispatch and have the driver notified by them.  People got by without cell phones up until about 10 years ago.  There&#039;s really no need for muni drivers to have them turned on while on their routes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there&#8217;s a real emergency, the caller can call muni central dispatch and have the driver notified by them.  People got by without cell phones up until about 10 years ago.  There&#8217;s really no need for muni drivers to have them turned on while on their routes.</p>
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		<title>By: diogenese</title>
		<link>http://www.munidiaries.com/2009/01/15/driver-cell-phone-ban/comment-page-1/#comment-1480</link>
		<dc:creator>diogenese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 05:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on - he didn&#039;t have an emergency call. How did he know to answer? It had an emergency ring? He wanted to talk to somebody and he knows he can get away with stopping the bus for 15 minutes to do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on &#8211; he didn&#8217;t have an emergency call. How did he know to answer? It had an emergency ring? He wanted to talk to somebody and he knows he can get away with stopping the bus for 15 minutes to do it.</p>
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		<title>By: PTCruiser</title>
		<link>http://www.munidiaries.com/2009/01/15/driver-cell-phone-ban/comment-page-1/#comment-1479</link>
		<dc:creator>PTCruiser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 05:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To address the accident with the T Third and N Judah trains, the operator was found to be NOT using his cell phone. Records show that he was not on his cell phone during the accident. Just wanted to clear that up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To address the accident with the T Third and N Judah trains, the operator was found to be NOT using his cell phone. Records show that he was not on his cell phone during the accident. Just wanted to clear that up.</p>
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		<title>By: jenny</title>
		<link>http://www.munidiaries.com/2009/01/15/driver-cell-phone-ban/comment-page-1/#comment-1467</link>
		<dc:creator>jenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is definitely an issue that Muni should - if it hasn&#039;t already - address. for real emergencies, Muni should be able to communicate with the driver via radio and have some sort of contingency plan that jeff mentioned. 

i&#039;m still against drivers carrying cell phones on duty. i don&#039;t think a Muni operator would contact HQ about a personal problem; he/she would just keep on driving, which is exactly what happened in my situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is definitely an issue that Muni should &#8211; if it hasn&#8217;t already &#8211; address. for real emergencies, Muni should be able to communicate with the driver via radio and have some sort of contingency plan that jeff mentioned. </p>
<p>i&#8217;m still against drivers carrying cell phones on duty. i don&#8217;t think a Muni operator would contact HQ about a personal problem; he/she would just keep on driving, which is exactly what happened in my situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.munidiaries.com/2009/01/15/driver-cell-phone-ban/comment-page-1/#comment-1465</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe this is a question for Ford, True, et al., but does Muni have a policy in place for when there is an emergency is a driver&#039;s life? One that occurs while they&#039;re in the middle of a route? Seems like a good idear, if not.

I agree with Michael that the drivers shouldn&#039;t be barred from having the phones on them; only from using them while operating. And then, use should be rare, and Muni should have a contingency plan to take care of that driver&#039;s passengers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe this is a question for Ford, True, et al., but does Muni have a policy in place for when there is an emergency is a driver&#8217;s life? One that occurs while they&#8217;re in the middle of a route? Seems like a good idear, if not.</p>
<p>I agree with Michael that the drivers shouldn&#8217;t be barred from having the phones on them; only from using them while operating. And then, use should be rare, and Muni should have a contingency plan to take care of that driver&#8217;s passengers.</p>
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		<title>By: jenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>jenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 17:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i originally felt the same way as you, Michael, but consider how you would react if a bad emergency call came in while you had a busload of people to cart around. while everyone responds differently to bad news, research has found that traumatic events cause impairments in cognition and senses, deeming it unsafe to drive. 

of course drivers are people too; i&#039;m just questioning the public-safety aspect in this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i originally felt the same way as you, Michael, but consider how you would react if a bad emergency call came in while you had a busload of people to cart around. while everyone responds differently to bad news, research has found that traumatic events cause impairments in cognition and senses, deeming it unsafe to drive. </p>
<p>of course drivers are people too; i&#8217;m just questioning the public-safety aspect in this.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Dowling</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Dowling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 17:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hm.  I totally agree that cellphone use by MUNI drivers, WHILE DRIVING, should not be allowed.  I think that is already covered by existing law (though I am unsure if that law excluded bus drivers, though that would be odd if it did).

However, I don&#039;t think it would be fair to completely disallow cellphone use by MUNI drivers completely.  That&#039;s like someone telling you that you cannot use a cellphone during your work hours, at all.  And emergencies do happen.

MUNI drivers, as annoying and rude as many of them are, are still human and still need to stay in contact with people.

Just my $0.02</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm.  I totally agree that cellphone use by MUNI drivers, WHILE DRIVING, should not be allowed.  I think that is already covered by existing law (though I am unsure if that law excluded bus drivers, though that would be odd if it did).</p>
<p>However, I don&#8217;t think it would be fair to completely disallow cellphone use by MUNI drivers completely.  That&#8217;s like someone telling you that you cannot use a cellphone during your work hours, at all.  And emergencies do happen.</p>
<p>MUNI drivers, as annoying and rude as many of them are, are still human and still need to stay in contact with people.</p>
<p>Just my $0.02</p>
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