dogs on the bus  

puppy's first ride on MUNI
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This short, frothy post came to us via the “Submit a diary” form. It’s by Janis, and it’s full of [sic]‘s*:

Ok. so first let me say I have nothing against dogs. But what is with the drivers allowing dogs on the bus? Yesterday was the second time in 2 weeks the driver on the 47 allowed an unmuzzled dog on the bus. Both times the driver didn’t even blink or ask for service papers just let them on. The first one was a Pit bull too! The second won was a tame enough looking lab, but both times the busses were standing room only and who knows what could have spooked a dog. What happened to rules?

Muni Diaries loves dogs. But we also love rules. And we also love drivers who enforce said rules. Feel free to send us other instances of anyone, drivers, riders, marching to their own beat.

* Editor’s mark for: We didn’t misspell this shit, okay?

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16 Comments

    plug1   July 6, 2009 at 4:08 pm

    @Janis: what is wrong with pit bulls? before she was hit by a car, my pit bull was one of the sweetest, well-trained dogs you will ever meet. in fact she was used at the SFPD for officers to practice training on before they trained the actual K-9′s.

    just curious, as pit bulls are consistently getting a bad rap. and just like humans, there are good and bad ones out there. i see no place for generalizations in either breed.

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    _six6six_ Reply:

    Only pit bull owners trust a pit bull. I don’t, and no one in their right mind would either.

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    jeff Reply:

    ahem, “problem” pit bulls are almost always their owners’ responsibility. the ones not trained to fight tend to be sweet, loving dogs. try not to generalize, please.

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    _six6six_ Reply:

    While the actual instance of dog maulings by pitbulls may or may not exceed other breeds, there is no questioning the FACT that injuries suffered are MUCH higher when the aggressive animal is a pitbull. No arguing that.

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    no english in satan school? Reply:

    i think you mean “incidence,” not “instance.” but you’re totally wrong anyway, little satan boy

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    bmtea   July 6, 2009 at 4:13 pm

    “so first let me say I have nothing against dogs.” The rest of the diatribe is in stark contrast with this statement. I would prefer the company of dogs to many a human Muni rider.

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    Erik   July 6, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    Pit bulls are as mean as you teach them to be.

    And Muni drivers aren’t supposed to ask for proof of it being a service animal; if you say it is then they have to let you on.

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    Lulzy Lulzersson   July 7, 2009 at 12:49 am

    Aren’t dogs allowed on Muni at certain hours of the day? I thought they were — I’m sure I read something about it.

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    jeff Reply:

    yes, they are. here’s the link, but the text is buried down and not anchored, so i’ll paste it here for everyone:

    At any time of day, trained service animals for the disabled may ride Muni at no charge. — 49 Code of Federal Regulations § 37.167(d)
    A service animal must be leashed and under its owner’s control but does not have to be muzzled.
    Non-service animals may not ride weekdays 5-9 a.m. and 3-7 p.m..
    During the permitted hours, a muzzled and leashed pet dog (one per vehicle) may be allowed.√
    All other pets and non-service animals must be carried in small closed containers.
    A fare equal to the owner’s must be paid for each non-service animal

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    Todd Edelman, Green Idea Factory   July 7, 2009 at 8:16 am

    Hey wouldn’t it be great to visit your friends in the East Bay, South Bay or Marin, Sonoma etc. WITH your dog BUT without your car?

    Unfortunately, the only transit operator in the Bay Area which allows larger pet dogs (outside of a container, etc.) is MUNI. Not even the ferries allow them!

    If you want to change this situation and create a better “canine mobility chain” in the SF Bay Area, see “Dogs on Board!” at my website.

    When you see a dog on a bus etc. it can mean someone is not traveling by car. Pretty cool, and even it does not wear a muzzle, probably a lot safer, certainly less polluting….

    Thanks!

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    Josh   July 8, 2009 at 12:00 am

    SF Weekly had an article about what can be considered a ‘service animal’ nowadays, and for the most part, bus drivers aren’t going to try to enforce issues with animals onboard because a) it slows down boarding and b) it could open MUNI and the city to ADA lawsuits.

    See:

    http://www.sfweekly.com/2009-06-17/news/service-with-a-snarl/

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    AD   July 8, 2009 at 1:31 pm

    I don’t get it. Non-service dogs ARE allowed on Muni during non-commute times. What’s the problem here?

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    Zia's mom   September 2, 2009 at 4:53 pm

    Hey, how do you KNOW it’s not a service animal? I have one that rides in a bag, unmuzzled of course. She’s a lot cleaner than almost every person and doesn’t smell, bark or make rude comments. I tell the driver she’s a service animal, or show the pass. How do YOU know that the driver doesn’t KNOW the person and her dog? I’m just saying, get over yourself and play nice with dogs.

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    jeff Reply:

    did you all miss the fact that Muni Mind Reader is a comedy feature here on Muni Diaries? It’s a caricature, not a true story. just sayin’

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    Zia's mom   September 2, 2009 at 9:42 pm

    LOL! thanks Jeff for telling me about Muni Mind Reader. I just found this site and find it very , true, tragic and hilarious.

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    Mandy   September 3, 2009 at 12:18 pm

    I think if the dog owner is responsible with their particular dog it’s not a problem no matter the type of dog. I would never take my dog on a bus, muzzled or not, because he would lose his mind barking and doesn’t want strangers that close to him. He has never been trained to be an agressive dog but he has some anxiety issues (he’s not a pit bull). I would have to agree that pit bulls get a bad rap. My friend’s dog is part pit bull and would be fine on a bus (he rides the tram at Disneyland regularly). I’m sure for many people this is a necessity – if you’re vet is far away and the dog had medication and can’t walk home?

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